Friday, May 27, 2011

Transit is not time-competitive with cars

"The Brookings estimates simply confirm the reality that has been evident in US Census Bureau and US Department of Transportation surveys for decades: that transit is generally not time-competitive with the automobile. It is no wonder that the vast majority of commuters in the United States (and even in Europe) travel to work by car."

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At 10:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Underscoring again why we need to defund MUNI and return money to the taxpayers.

At 8:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That Brookings' study is a complete joke.

At 11:40 AM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Can you be more specific?

At 12:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fresno has the best transit in the country.

At 7:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Public transit is losing support, and not everyone can own a car in an urban environment. If only there was some other relatively safe, alternate means of transportation... oh well.

At 9:19 AM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Public transit isn't losing support in SF. The SF Transportation Fact Sheet of 2009 shows shows the average weekday boardings at 672,000, while the 2010 report shows 707,459 daily boardings.

At 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

700,000 daily boardings. That includes transfers and round trips. On average a rider is boarding 7 times per day. That means 100,000 people take MUNI per day.

A large percentage are not San Francisco residents and do not pay the taxes to support MTA. Probably 40%. So you have 60,000 daily riders in a city of 800,000. That is not significant. MUNI is a cesspool and money sink. Shut it down.

At 11:30 AM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

You throw out a lot of numbers but cite no sources. An average rider boards 7 times a day? Bullshit. I understand that you're a Free Market crackpot, but you'll have to back up your religion with some credible sources for your assertions.

At 7:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh look at NYC in the chart

Guess that means they can shut down the subway and nobody will notice?

At 4:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last Sunday my wife, who's just beginning to bicycle, and I rode from Nob Hill to Ocean Beach but took our bikes back by Muni buses (#18 and #1).

The ride out took 50 minutes and was wonderful. The bus ride back with no wait for transfers (hooray!) took 1 hour and 15 minutes. The passengers and drivers were polite and quiet, but the long ride convinced me not to do this often. The #1 California stopped, it seemed, every block for many sections, and every two blocks the rest of the way.

That's an unacceptable suck of a person's time. We really must insist that MUN, through its TEPP, adjust these routes so that one can make cross-town trips in a time resembling that of a car or scooter going the same distance. Otherwise, public transit will remain the "choice" of the poor, the old, and the infirm.

The time it takes me to use public transit sends me back time and again to my car and bike. But lots of folks don't have my good health or the money to own a car in this fair city of ours. Btw, don't want to post as "Anonymous" but can't seem to figure out how to do otherwise. I usually post as Icarus12.


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