Saturday, June 23, 2018

Repugs in a "leg-hold trap"


...The migrant crisis is going to go down through history as one of the most destructive series of own-goals in the history of American politics. The establishment of the “zero-tolerance” policy made the child-nabbing inevitable. The president*’s own rhetoric—indeed, the raison d’etre of his entire campaign—trapped him into at first defending the indefensible and then abandoning what was perhaps the only consistent policy idea he ever had—outside of enriching himself and his family, that is. 

Then the cameras began to roll, and the nation’s gorge began to rise, and the president* couldn’t stand the pressure that was mounting around him. Of course, because he knows nothing about anything, including how to actually be president*, he bungled even his own abject surrender. 

...the power balance in our politics seemed to shift this week. Terrible policies are still coming from the various agencies. Scott Pruitt remains a grifter of nearly inhuman proportions and a vandal besides. Neil Gorsuch continues to prove himself to be the reliable conservative hack for whom the Republicans stole a Supreme Court seat. 

But the crisis at the border is a leg-hold trap for all of them. There’s no way for them to keep faith with themselves and get out from under the humanitarian disaster they concocted. 

One day, maybe, brave Guatemalan mothers and their very brave children may be said to have saved the American Republic from slow-motion and giddy suicide. Some even may be our fellow citizens by then, and we should remember to thank them.

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23 Comments:

At 10:30 AM, Blogger Mark Kaepplein said...

Obama was locking up parents and kids in cages. Just look at this report from a Dem. in 2014. https://mcgovern.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=396628

 
At 12:35 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Whether that's true or not, it's wrong, right? Talking about what Obama supposedly did or didn't do in the past is just changing the subject from what's happening now.

 
At 2:14 PM, Blogger Mark Kaepplein said...

Hilary Clinton spoke a couple years ago with CNN on the right thing to do: Wipe out the gangs in those countries and send their people home.

Not coddling drug addicts here might reduce drug demand and the money flowing into drug cartels.

These people have chosen to cross the US border illegally knowing they would get held in detention until they agree to being deported or their dubious asylum cases come up. BTW they can apply for asylum at any one of many US embassys and consulates. They don't even have to leave their home country to apply.

 
At 2:59 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Nice try, Mark. The Trump/Repug immigrant hate policy---along with the rest of their proto-fascist right-wing agenda---will get a solid rebuke in November. My hope is that the Repug Party will soon be reduced to a fringe party composed of racists, homophobes, mysogynists, corporate greedheads, militarists, and all the other miscellaneous morons and "forgotten" crybabies who voted for Trump. Like it is to a large extent now, the party's base will be in the former Confederate South. Gee, what a coincidence!

 
At 9:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXdDnyS9AE

 
At 10:23 PM, Blogger Mark Kaepplein said...

You have confirmed what I thought: Outrage by Democrats over immigration is solely a campaign to try and win midterm elections, because no such outrage existed during Obama years.

 
At 12:09 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Like your scumbag leader, you persist in talking about Obama. Not surprising that, like Trump himself, supporters of the worst president in US history want to discredit one of the best. And what about Hillary's emails? You forgot to mention that.

Trump and other whites are upset that the game is almost over. Once this moron is driven from office, you'll never have another white supremacist in the White House.

It's called White Extinction Anxiety. Call your therapist right away to discuss.

 
At 8:11 PM, Blogger Mark Kaepplein said...

Rob, you're usually more rational so I'm surprised by the assumptions you make.

But, I'll bite.

Yes, whites in many cities and countries are shrinking in proportion to ethnic groups who don't use much birth control or self control. Overpopulation fuels global warming and poverty. Only China has had some success in this battle.

Israel is facing the very real possibility where Jews in their country will be outnumbered by non-Jews, so they have successfully encouraged Jewish women to procreate. The only US whites doing so are Mormons, since Catholics aren't anymore.

Name me some countries taken over by non-whites which became more prosperous. The only one I can think of is India because they maintained some of the infrastructure created by the British like the rail system (unlike the Congo).

 
At 4:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"White Extinction Anxiety"

I'm curious . Is it similar to post traumatic stress disorder that has plagued half the country after Hilary's loss?

 
At 4:45 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

"Taken over"? You think that's what the US is facing, dark-skinned people taking over? Is that what the immigration issue is about? Not surprising that you're anonymous with that bigoted bullshit.

The US accumulated much of its wealth by enslaving millions of black people until 1865. After that those people became a large pool of cheap labor---still are, for that matter.

As were white people until Labor unions in the US achieved power and legal status.

And then there's the long history of imperialism by the Master Race, the consequences of which we are still trying to cope with, especially in the Middle East and in Africa.

Immigration is a net gain for the country: The Danger from Low-Skilled Immigrants: Not Having Them.

 
At 8:30 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Anonymous writes:
"'White Extinction Anxiety'" I'm curious. Is it similar to post traumatic stress disorder that has plagued half the country after Hilary's loss?"

No, though White Extinction Anxiety helped Hillary lose because a lot of white people voted for a racist candidate. Hilary's[sic] loss was also hard to accept because she got almost 3 million more votes than Trump, and because he is a boob, a rube, and a bigot. He's also shown as president that he's a world-class incompetent, an ignoramus, and all-around contemptible human being.

I gave Trump my Biggest Asshole of the Year Award, but being an asshole doesn't come close to covering it. He may be the Biggest All-Around Asshole Ever, based not just on his loathsome politics but because of his grotesquely repellent personality---a sexual predator, dishonest businessman, and compulsive liar

It will take years for Democrats to repair the damage Trump and his despicable political party are doing to the country, but that process will begin in November.

 
At 5:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hilary's "3 million more votes" came from California. California doesn't run the country.

You take things more personal than factual. Which is why there will be no "process in November". But a big surprise.

 
At 9:46 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

You mean the big Red Tide? Not according to the polls, but it's early. Mueller may issue his report before November, which will put impeachment on the table for discussion. Trump and the Repugs will be talking about putting another anti-abortion justice on the Supreme Court. Not much margin for error. They only have 51 votes in the Senate and they have to worry about Senator Collins and Senator Murkowski, both of whom are pro-choice. Will they vote for a judge that, as per Trump's litmus test, will overturn Roe v. Wade? Maybe.

And then there's Jeff Flake...

 
At 6:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Roe v. Wade won't be overturned it's been around way too long. Jeff Flake will not be delaying anything. His issue is tariffs. With trumps tariffs in place Flakes crooked pay offs will be cut in half.
We know polls are bullshit. Hence the presidential elections. I was not speaking of any particular blue or red tide or wave.

Look at it politically. Dems have been in attack mode since the elections jumping around from with thing to another hoping this will somehow help them keep their jobs. They are all over the place running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. They have no idea what the people want or what's going on on the ground. I mean come on what's the color of the sky? Well the color is trump is a piece of shit ruining the country. Really???? Let's be honest... you can't win elections that day. They need to understand what Obama was talking about yesterday. Or as I said they'll be in for a big surprise.

 
At 1:42 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Funny you don't mention Trump and the Russian investigation or the fact that Hillary got a lot more votes than asshole did. "The people" didn't want that prick to be president. Actually, the 2016 polls weren't so bad. Nate Silver tried to warn people that the election was close enough to go either way.


Silver's site combines all the polls every day to come up with a sense of reality. Not surprisngly you Repugs and President Fuckhead aren't doing very well.

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger Mark Kaepplein said...

Here are some of the statements Hillary has made on immigration: https://youtu.be/fIUTolcK6Uc

 
At 7:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the fact that Hillary got a lot more votes than asshole did. "The people" didn't want that prick to be president"

Again "more votes for Hilary" came from California. California does not run the country and does not speak for the rest of the country.
So when you speak of "more votes" don't forget to mention that they came from one state and not the rest of the country.

"Funny you don't mention Trump and the Russian investigation"

Wishful thinking. You and the rest are rubbing on that genie lamp you've buffed it out with your bare hand. I like to keep it real.

 
At 6:49 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

If Mueller doesn't nail Trump on treason with the Russia, he already has a prima facie case of obstruction of justice with the firing of James Comey and all the anti-investigation tweets and public statements, not to mention the money-laundering and other financial hanky-panky.

He's personally a creep and a crook. He's going down, and it can't happen too soon.

Yes, you and Trump and the Repugs wish you could dispense with California, its 40 million people and its $2.8 trillion economy. If it was a country, California would be the 5th largest economy in the world. And all those pesky non-white people: California now has a majority minority population. Not likely many of those folks will vote for Republicans---ever. Pete Wilson fucked Republicans on the immigrant vote years ago, and Trump has sealed that deal with his ugly, racist bullshit.

 
At 6:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no Russia. Trumpe public and twitter statements is not a crime. It's called talking shit which is not obstruction of justice. A president firing an FBI director is not obstruction. You may need to read up on obstruction before you comment. No "hanky-panky money laundering exists". Mandafort within months was indicted on tax evasion and laundering. Rock gates was also indicted on tax evasion within months. If trump had any financial issues they would have found it a long time ago. Especially since every canidate must provide financial disclosure which is required by law and is investigated.

40 million do not speak for or run the rest of the country.

What your not looking at are the obama voters that flipped. Without them trump would have lost. Take for example Pennsylvania that went for obama. Trump got the same amount of votes as obama which is why he won the state. These racists voted for the black man but hated the "white lady"

You have no facts. You only respond with your personal feelings on republicans and trump while dropping a racisist line here and there.

Keep rubbing that genie lamp. If at anytime a genie appears please let me know. I wouldn't mind buying one.

 
At 11:32 AM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

"There is no Russia," by which you presumably mean that Trump didn't collude with Russia during the 2016 campaign. That remains to be seen, since Mueller is conducting that ongoing investigation. Trump is sure acting like he has something to hide. Maybe Fox and Breitbart didn't inform you True Believers yesterday about the Senate Intelligence Committee's report---a committee with 8 Repugs and 7 Democrats---that found that, yes, the Russians tried to influence the election to damage Hillary and get Trump elected. The main issue remaining for Mueller's probe is how much Trump himself and his campaign were involved in helping the Russkies undermine our democracy.

Facts? Your idea of obstruction of justice is probably the same as Trump's, but it's unlikely to convince anyone but him and his supporters. Here's a more objective view.

Last time I looked California is still part of the US and likely to remain in the union along with its 55 electoral college votes. The main point about California: its demographics and politics represent the future of the US: multi-racial and politically liberal, as people of color are increasingly integrated into the US economy and political system.

The Hillary hate campaign started way back when she was First Lady. It's always been bullshit, a right-wing misogynist campaign based in your Repugnant Party.

 
At 7:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Show me where it says trump and his campaign collided with the Russians in the intelligence report. That was the whole issue right? Adam Schiff, dems such as yourself the mainstream media. Russian collusion Russian collusion. So who me. Last I checked Russia putting out fake ads on Facebook wasn't collusion. And besides everyone has their preference around the world as Europe preferred Hilary. But where's the collusion?

Obstruction of justice just as Russia collusion wishful thinking so keep rubbing that lamp of it makes you feel better.

"Fox, Breibart"

Nope. I don't pay attention to fox or read any Breibart. Or any Main stream media.

Here is the formula on how I get my information.

1 head + one set of shoulders = head is not up my ass.

 
At 3:47 PM, Blogger Rob Anderson said...

Since you apparently have a reading disorder, of course you don't read Breitbart. As I clearly wrote, the Senate Intelligence Committee report was about Russia's effort to influence the 2016 election, not about collusion. That's what Mueller's report will be about, among other things, like Trump's financial relationships with Russia/Russians.

You should let me know what your sources of information are. No Fox, no Breitbart, no mainstream media. What does that leave? The Deep Web?

Trump fires the FBI Director, who was supervising the investigation into his 2016 campaign's contacts with Russia, but that isn't obstruction of justice? And his admission on national TV that the Russia investigation is why he fired Comey? Or his nonstop critical tweets and public comments about the investigation---a "witch-hunt"?

Along with a recommended reading list, please share your definition of obstruction of justice.

 
At 5:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Since you apparently have a reading disorder, of course you don't read Breitbart. As I clearly wrote, the Senate Intelligence Committee report was about Russia's effort to influence the 2016 election, not about collusion. That's what Mueller's report will be about, among other things, like Trump's financial relationships with Russia/Russians."

If you take a look at the history of your posts and comments you have done nothing but speak of Russia, trump campaign colluding with the Russians and pay offs. Are you switching it up as the MSM does? One day it's Hacking. The next is Russia and obstruction now finances?

"You should let me know what your sources of information are."

Why? To allow you to get off facts and and make it up criticizing where I get my info and how it may or may not be accurate? No thanks.

I will start with this.

Manaforts indictment in full legal.

Since you apparently have a reading disorder, of course you don't read Breitbart. As I clearly wrote, the Senate Intelligence Committee report was about Russia's effort to influence the 2016 election, not about collusion. That's what Mueller's report will be about, among other things, like Trump's financial relationships with Russia/Russians.

Senate intelligence reports which not only states Russian medaling on Facebook with ads but also that the Russians not only hacked the dnc but made an attempt at attacking BOTH CAMPAIGNS.

https://www.burr.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SSCI%20ICA%20ASSESSMENT_FINALJULY3.pdf

Previously you always like you slam trump colluding with Russians and finances. Why not start with those first two pieces of information first. I know you have the habit of taking a word, sentence, and or a phrase making an attempt at turning it into some sort of guilt with your opinion. But we can get to that later.

The story including yours use to be Russian collusion and money. In a previous post you made a huge deal about manaforts indictment and Flynn. To trump Russia investigation then obstruction of justice. The ne title by theleft today is "Russia probe".


 

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