Labels: Anti-Americanism, Hillary, The Repugnant Party, Trump
posted by Rob Anderson @ 5:14 PM
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It wasn't Russia. Hilary thought trump running for president was a joke. She got cocky and really believed she had it in the bag no matter what.
James Comey had a lot to do with Trump's victory. Maybe he'll make amends by helping to get Trump impeached with his testimony next week.
Hillary got almost 3 million more votes than Trump. Our 18th Century election system, thanks to our sainted Founding Fathers, really did the job. That someone who gets the most votes doesn't win the election is absurd.
Al Gore also also got more than Bush. However the way our system works that means nothing. Not sure if Comey had anything to do with Hilary losing considering she did get more individual votes. I highly doubt Comey has anything to impeach trump. It's been long enough and would have come out by now.
CNN will dissect his testimony and then drive us nuts spinning every word. Sure not many of us like trump but it's getting old.
"Would have come out by now"? Nope. The investigations have barely started, not ended. Comey apparently will nail our moron in chief for obstruction of justice, which is an impeachable offense. He has memos he wrote right after his meetings with Trump.
CNN's criticism of Trump is "getting old"? This is just the beginning of an ongoing media shit-storm about our contemptible president. Only the Fox News bubble will be a safe space for you folks.
I see you chose not to post my reply. Can't handle the truth? Which is a surprise because you have always seemed to be a person to post real facts on this site. I was speaking objectively and in regards to the law. Now that Comey's written testamoney has been made public I ask you again... Where's the obstruction? Where is comey's "nailing" of trump? Mr Comey was a federal prosecutor for 30 years. He would have nailed trump day one. After making his testimony public the media has backed down from their obstruction bullshit. I could care less about Mr trump I'm have my own problems with the sf city government as it is. However one must state fact no matter how they feel about a particular president. Read the law Mr Anderson. "One must know before they speak" democrats/liberals are shooting themselves in the foot. This is all going to backfire. Not a good thing. They should have just kept their mouth shut and made their move during next years elections. That would have been the smarter thing to do. Instead they conduct as I have stated "stupid shit". Hence SF.
You're lying about my not posting your comment now that you know you've lost the argument. Asking Comey to let the Michael Flynn investigation go is not obstruction of justice? Besides, impeachment of a president doesn't turn on legalities. It's more a political decision by congress, which means impeachment is moot unless Democrats retake congress in 2018.
You haven't provided any "facts" in your comment.
This is starting to sound like streetsblog. Mr Anderson please go read the obstruction law. Then go read Comey's letter. Pay attention to the parts where Comey speaks of his understandings. Then move on to the constitution. The president has a right to fire Comey also has a right to ask him to drop the case(which did not happen). He didn't force Comey to do anything more threaten him into doing anything. He made a statement. "I hope you can let this go". That is not even close to obstruction. No "facts" provided? No problem.
Facts: United States constitution(help you presidential authority and rights). And the obstruction law. You can worry about winning or losing arguements. I'm stating fact.
Again...Comey was a federal prosecutor for 30 years. He knows exactly what obstruction is. He would have ripped trump. A word not included in Comey's written testimony nor was obstruction Comey's understanding. Trump has done nothing illegal.
After this I highly doubt they will take over congress. They may actually lose seats in 2018. For the record McCain would be the first prick to call for impeachment.
No, McCain wanted to talk about Hillary's email!
Trump asked Comey to drop the investigation and when he didn't do it he fired him. Seems pretty simple to me.
This article in the New Yorker sheds some light on the process by which Trump can be removed. It doesn't involve the kind of legalisms you prefer:
"The Framers of the Constitution planned ahead for the death of Presidents—hence, Vice-Presidents—but they failed to address an unnerving prospect: a President who is alive and very sick. Had Kennedy survived being shot, and been left comatose, there would have been no legal way to allow others to assume his powers. To fend off that possibility, the Twenty-fifth Amendment was added to the Constitution in February, 1967. Under Section 4, a President can be removed if he is judged to be 'unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.' The assessment can be made either by the Vice-President and a majority of the Cabinet secretaries or by a congressionally appointed body, such as a panel of medical experts. If the President objects—a theoretical crisis that scholars call 'contested removal'—Congress has three weeks to debate and decide the issue. A two-thirds majority in each chamber is required to remove the President. There is no appeal."
However, the definition of what would constitute an inability to discharge the duties of office was left deliberately vague. Senator Birch Bayh, of Indiana, and others who drafted the clause wanted to insure that the final decision was not left to doctors. The fate of a President, Bayh wrote later, is 'really a political question' that should rest on the 'professional judgment of the political circumstances existing at the time.' The Twenty-fifth Amendment could therefore be employed in the case of a President who is not incapacitated but is considered mentally impaired."
I understand the 25th amendment. However that's not ever going to happen. As I've stated before democrats/liberals should have kept their mouth shut until 2018. But I believe this will back fire on them as they keep weakening their position with their mouths and actions. The media is not helping either by continuesly pushing what they're pushing becoming more and more irrelevant proving trump right. Folks would have to wait until 2020. But even then No one strong with the dems as of yet and they have been shitting where they walk since last July. It's not looking too good.
On a different note If he is voted out of office in 2020 id take him as the mayor of SF or someone like him especially today. Like him or not we both know he'd tell the bycicle coalition and sfmta to go fuck themselves.
Seems like President Trump is the one who keeps weakening his position with his mouth and his tweets. Comey says Trump tried to get him to stop the Flynn/Russia investigation, which Trump himself has verified. Clear case of obstruction of justice, an impeachable offense.
What specifically is Trump "right" about? I can't think of a single thing.
If the Democrats take back Congress in 2018, they can start the impeachment process. The investigations of the Russia issue are really nowhere near complete, which means more information damaging to Trump and his associates is likely before 2018. That could force even the Repugnant Party to dump Trump earlier than that. The only reason they stay support him is they still hope to get tax cuts for the rich before he goes away.
It's clear that Trump has been way in over his head from the beginning. He hasn't released his tax returns probably because it shows he owes Russian banks a lot of money.
No one can count on Trump being steadfast on a single important issue, not to mention a relatively unimportant one like the bicycle fantasy.
CNN and other media outlets report he's weakening his position with his mouth and tweets. But those aren't the people he's speaking to now is he?
One must remove themselves from the Hilary bubble putting their personal feelings to the side just for a moment and think logically.
It's obvious he could care less what anybody says about his tweets. Including the media. The media didn't get him into office. Way after Hilary conceded they still showed electoral votes below 270 calling states too close to call. He's bypassing all of that stuff speaking directly to the people. That's what he cares about. Why do you think he hasn't given many speeches at the White House but flying out once to twice a month to a rally in a different state? Trump is a business man. As a business man you bring people in and make them your customers then try and keep them as regulars. In a way it's kind of like standing on a corner and handing out flyers for a month to people about a new restaurant. That's the mentality. In this regard he's not an idiot. Typical business 101 stuff. "Get the people in"
Now even if democrats do take over congress which I doubt after the way they've been acting the past 6-9 months impeachment will not happen. It's not as easy as one may think no matter who controls the house. They would still need a super majority with I believe 18-21 republican votes. (I forgot the exact number). Which will not happen. Let's say for the sake of arguement they will have the republicans thinking about impeachment. They would be putting themselves in a serious pickle. As most of their constituents support trump. They would then have to explain it and most likely be voted out of office. As of today RNC is standing behind trump and have created a so-called "war room". And they are coming back pretty hard. They have the advantage. More money(heavy donors). Impeachment would be nice but wishful thinking. I'm sorry but we're stuck with this guy unless gets he dies in office.
I'm a little confused as to why you mention tax returns as it is not required by law to release them publically. There is no trump money and Russian banks. 17 intelligence agencies in the US including the FBI and the IRS you don't think they would have found a deposit by now? Get real. I'm over this Russian crap. It's a dead angle and I'm not sure why they keep pushing it. It's a dead end. They more they continue to push it, push obstruction of justice which does not exist either by the way and trying to find a way to impeach they will all end up looking like idiots. What they should be doing is focused on their job and country. Then take all of that anti trump energy and put it into figuring out why they lost, why blue states/counties went red and try to get those votes back. Until then they're all in a conoe in the middle of the ocean with no paddles. And calling trump bush is not helping.
None of my comments are personal. I'm just being real.
Trump is acting like he's still in campaign mode, speaking to his base and not even trying to expand it. His overall approval rating is down around 38%, which may be a good customer base if you're in a retail business but not in politics.
No, the "war room" idea fizzled out. I agree impeachment is unlikely now, but I'm assuming damaging information will continue to be revealed as the investigations continue.
No, there's no law that requires the president to release his tax returns, but it's become a tradition. We can't really know his relationship with Russian banks, for example, if we can't see his tax return and some kind of balance sheet.
You apparently assume the investigations have essentially ended and made their findings, when in fact they are nowhere near any conclusions. The special counsel's investigation in particular, which is likely to be the most serious and far-reaching, is just beginning. But there's a story today that Trump is considering firing Robert Mueller!
The problem Trump has is that he's acting like someone who has something to hide, with both his taxes and the Russian issue. His excessive concern for Michael Flynn could be based on what Flynn knows about the Russian contacts that could hurt him. His firing of Comey came after a serious but failed attempt at co-opting him. Trump is acting like he's guilty, that he has something to hide. Otherwise, would all that be necessary?
If you have nothing to hide, why not just let the investigations continue while you try to implement your unpopular agenda: undoing Obamacare and tax cuts for the rich, not to mention reversing Obama's environmental initiatives and deregulating Wall Street and the big banks.
Trump is an idiot, which is the good news. If he was smart he'd be able to do a lot more damage to the country.
Trump is Crazy Enough to Fire the Special Prosecutor
Approval ratings mean nothing to me the first year. Trump is not the only president with low approval ratings the first year. Clinton had the same issue. Even tho tax release has been tradition people break traditions all of the time. That doesn't make anybody guilty or look guilty. Obama took two years to release his birth certificate. Did he look guilty as a "non citizen" for those two years?
Flynn although a general was part of counter intelligence as well as in the department of military intelligence amongst others. It is the norm for those in intelligence to have contacts from other countries. It is also the norm for folks part of any presidential transition team from the day of elections on to speak with ambassadors diplomats etc or other countries. Perfectly legal under presidential transition act. Flynns investigation has to do with other issues that have to do with turkey/Syria. However, during the the transition he did speak with the Russian diplomat kisleyak which nothing happened but after coming out July with russin hacking they used flynns contact as an excuse and ran with it. In any case flynns investigations have nothing to do with trump.
Ignoring the issue and calling it a "witch hunt" is also not acting guilty. Firing an FBI director which is the right of all presidents is not stopping an investigation. If mayor lee decided to fire the police chief do the police stop doing their job? Do they stop investigating murders??
As for his financials something I really believed you knew about is that any candidate running for office is required by law to disclose finances.
Here's a list of folks including Hilary. Financial disclosure
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/financial-disclosures
Coincidence... I just read they released that disclosure. I had no idea prior to my last comment.
"Obama took two years to release his birth certificate. Did he look guilty as a 'non citizen' for those two years?"
Only Donald Trump and his crackpot followers thought---or at least claimed---that Obama was born in Kenya. After he released his birth certificate, the fringers then claimed it was a forgery!
And there were notices in Honolulu newspapers of his birth. Trump made a big show of sending investigators to Hawaii to find out the "truth," but he never announced the results of the phony investigation.
You apparently assume that the investigations are essentially over. Not so. US intelligence agencies may have telephone recordings of conversations by Flynn and other Trump operatives with the Russians, since they monitor all conversations of Russian agents in the US.
The special counsel has expanded the investigation to include money laundering. If Trump has nothing to hide, why not release his tax returns? Because obviously there's information therein he doesn't want public. The best case scenario for him is that his returns just show he isn't as rich as he claims to be. But the worst-case scenario is information about his relationships with Russian banks, which would explain his weird attitude toward Putin and Russia.
Firing the FBI Director in charge of investigating him is obviously a red flag, so to speak. The notion that Comey had lost the support of FBI agents and the FBI was in disarray were obvious lies, especially since Trump himself told Lester Holt that he fired him because of the Russia investigation, not because of Comey's management of the agency.
Recall that both Clinton and Nixon faced obstruction of justice charges during the move to impeach them. Trump keeps confirming in public that he is in fact obstructing justice. Nixon resigned before he could be removed by the Senate, and Clinton barely won the Senate's vote to remove him.
Fortunately for the country, his days as president are numbered. Only you True Believers will mourn his downfall.
A government agency has a copy of his tax returns. It's called the IRS which investigators, FBI, CIA and everybody else has access to. Your comment on his tax returns implies that investigators can't see his tax returns unless he releases them which is total BS. Go look at trumps financial disclosure which is a requirement to run for president. Nothing there.
Running for president requires a citizen to fill out many many forms. A background check. That's an investigation on its own before your approved to run for office. Go research it!
Money laundering? That's a Disney fantasy. Is that the new arguement now? During the campaign trump would give speeches on how the election was rigged. Everybody laughed at him called him crazy including Hilary.
This whole Russian story started with dnc emails on Wikileaks which was turned into "computers being hacked by Russia". After Hilary's loss the story flipped to collusion. Evidence of collusion existed. Trump was never under investigation for collusion Comey stated so. A president has the right to fire an FBI director at any time. President also have the right to stop an investigation or give pardons but that has not happened in this case. But the story falsely flipped to "obstruction" after "collusion". There is no obstruction and will never be. You would know this if you understood the law.
What now it's money laundering? The government has seen his tax returns and have access to his tax returns now. What about the years prior to running? 2015,2014,2013 or the past 40 years? They couldn't bust him for money laundering 10 years ago? Sounds pretty lame.
Regardless of Hilary losing and the dems/left having a hard on to get him out of office trump won't be going anywhere and I'm only referring to trump specifically. It's all wishful thinking and a fantasy coming from babies crying because they lost.
All of this noise has absolutely nothing to do with getting trump out as they know they can't do anything about it. It's about keeping congress and the senate busy slowing down the trump agenda. If their busy with this crap they won't get anything done. Let's say they kept everybody busy with this Russian obstruction crap and weren't able to pass tax reform. It will be used next year against republicans as if to say "see they didn't get your tax cuts passed why vote for them?" Regardless of which side will lose seats in 2018 this whole story will die out after that time as the strategy will shift to the 2020 presidential elections. To date this strategy seems to be working. But as I have stated before there is the possibility of it backfiring and end up looking like idiots.
Comey firing happened for a variety of reasons which are true. The only Russia part that trump was referring to was the fact that he did not want to go public with trump not being under investigation as he did for Hilary last year. Comey refused to go public. That's the "Russia" reason.
Trump himself personally won't be going anywhere. Who's to say wether anybody around him may end up with investigation problems which is possible. But not trump.
For the record I'm not speaking of support for either side or any one person or any Disney fantasy out of emotional distress for any loss. The "devil Putin" said it best. "I've seen 4 presidents, the 4 presidents change but the policy remains the same". Which is a true statement. Same shit different day and I could care less about who wins or loses. Like or not I'm only speaking the truth. If you'd like to keep hoping for him to be thrown out that's fine, your personal choice. My advice it would be to ones benifit to spend that energy on something more constructive.
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"Trump was never under investigation for collusion Comey stated so."
Trump's campaign was under investigation, but the difference between Trump and his campaign is essentially a semantic distinction.
"A president has the right to fire an FBI director at any time. President also have the right to stop an investigation or give pardons but that has not happened in this case. But the story falsely flipped to 'obstruction' after 'collusion'. There is no obstruction and will never be. You would know this if you understood the law."
Okay, explain "the law" that allows President Trump to obstruct Robert Mueller's investigation, which, by the way, is just beginning. He's still hiring lawyers for his staff.
Trump's stupid tweets are self-incriminating.
Agreed that impeaching Trump won't happen anytime soon, but the investigations will keep turning over rocks and finding incriminating stuff on him, his campaign, and his administration, which is packed with swamp creeps, crackpots, and greedheads.
Trump's agenda: tax cuts for the rich and dumping people off medical insurance.
Your pose as objective observer of the ongoing Trump fiasco lacks credibility, to put it mildly.
""the law" that allows President Trump to obstruct Robert Mueller's investigation"
Is this the new argument now? what happened to "Comey apparently will nail our moron in chief for obstruction of justice" it has changed now to Mueller??My comments are here where did I say there was a law that allows a president to obstruct justice? Where did I mention Mueller's name? You have flipped it and say I lack credibility?
You argument was that firing FBI director was obstruction. What i stated was that a president has the right to fire him as well as stop an investigation if he chose to do so under the US constitution. The only law i mention was the obstruction law in saying what trump did was not obstruction.Fist collusion(no evidence) then obstruction by firing Comey and now the new story is the obstruction of Mueller????
You don't like trump ok great. But get real about the truth and don't flip.
By the way obstruction of justice law is 18 U.S.C. 1501-1521 in case you'd like to take a look at it.
Okay, thanks for the citation. Looks like this law clearly prohibits what Trump did in firing Comey, along with his dumb, incriminating tweets.
No collusion with Russia has been shown, but the investigations are really just getting underway.
Comey is gone now, remember? Trump fired him, as he admitted to Lester Holt, because of the Russia investigation. As the special counsel, Mueller now leads the most important investigation.
I'm sorry you were saying????
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